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Finally an update for Beat Thang Virtual…is it enough?

Finally an update for Beat Thang Virtual…is it enough?

After literally MONTHS of waiting for an update to fix bugs and issues with the software, as well as add  much needed functionality, the beat kangz have released version 1.21 of their software.

Many features that we all were expecting didn’t make this update, things like being able to use it as a plugin, full ability to map midi, autochopping, etc….they aren’t there.

Maybe in the next update? Who knows.

Here’s a quick list posted by Rev of the beat kangz on the update and future updates:

What’s up Fam. Here is a quick overview of what you can expect from the BTV 1.2.1 update. Formal bug fixes will be posted soon:

1. Enhanced multi-timbral functionality: For all the heads that wish to use the sounds of BTV, but sequence from an external hardware device, we now have a separate multi-timbral mode. Just enable it in the systems dialogue, and you can use BTV as a tone module for your MPC or other MIDI hardware or software sequencer. (see new manual download for specifics).

2. Increased stability. Includes many crash fixes that you guys reported. (will be listed in formal crash fixes doc.)

3. Better handling of PACE installations, authorizations and updates.

4. New Tempo functionality. Tempo window now deals with decimal places. Just hold the shift key and adjust tempo for more precise tempo definition.

5. On the surface, it may not seem like much, but under the hood we added enhanced functionality that makes it possible to upgrade to version 2.0 for use as a plugin in your DAW. Within a matter of weeks, we will begin to release subsequent updates that implement AU and VST support for Logic, Live and then Cubase. Having 1.2.1 will position you to make the best use of these upgrades. And remember, all you early adopters get it for free.

6. Enhanced Snow Leopard support. Many OSX 10.6 bugs fixed.

I know it’s been a long wait, and we appreciate all of you early adopters that have supported us from the beginning and been so patient as we add features. We pay serious attention to your feed back so please keep it coming. You are helping us to make BTV a truly world class production tool.

Thank you very much! More to come soon. Peace.

-Cool Rev
Vice President
Beat Kangz Electronics

Let’s see what happens with the next update, let’s see how long it takes, I still can’t believe auto-chopping isn’t added yet, and it doesn’t look like it will be in the next update. Maybe a 2.0 feature?

we’ll see. You can get the update on the beat kangz homepage. www.beatkangz.com

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49 Responses to “Finally an update for Beat Thang Virtual…is it enough?”

  1. Swamp says:

    all i can say is..wow what a let down,i was waiting to purchase after this update.I have a friend he loves the software and all he talked about was this update,what a let down..i hope they update big quick for you all!

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    saintjoe Reply:

    yeah…definitely not what was expected, can’t believe it still isn’t a plugin yet! And no autochop or ability to midi map everything!

    Oh well….I still wonder what the deal is on the hardware, that’s what I want to see, I hope it actually comes out lol.

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  2. CJTheMaestro says:

    I hope this next update works with Protools. If not then beatkangz
    might as well fold because people are only gonna wait for so long
    before they go to the next best thang. This update really sucks. No
    new blang changes still can’t control transport controls. I’ll give them
    two months to see if they update again if not I will invest in the plugin
    Sampla and be done with BTV. A huge letdown.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    yeah bro I agree with everything you’ve said, it’s too little and the basic things for it to be used in a standard production environment haven’t made it in yet.

    I just posted the update because I figured peeps may want to know, there was no announcement or anything about it so that let’s you know that they knew it wasn’t what people expected.

    You should be able to control transport though I was able to do that months back, I think they use mmc for it.

    But yeah man, I’m rockin Maschine…and there are no limits like this, of course it has it’s own controller but yeah lol…if they don’t make it a working plugin soon, it’s going to be too late, if it isn’t already.

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    mehdo Reply:

    Well I think its more of a finance issue people wait 3 years to get updates for reason give these people a chance to make it right and as for sampla I would not waist the money. I sold mine on amazon.com

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    saintjoe Reply:

    I hear you on sampla, it doesn’t have it’s own sequencer and it has it’s own issues, it can load as plugin though, but I had a few gripes with it as well.

    You’re right, I think people are more frustrated about the lack of a few basic features, but hopefully they get it handled.

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  3. Gary says:

    Whats up man? Do you have to play the sounds like the drum sounds or can you map them out like you can in FL Studio?

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    saintjoe Reply:

    yeah you have to play them out in real time there is no step sequencer/grid

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  4. Gary says:

    Thanks homie. Once they add a step sequence grid ill be down for it im really feeling the sounds they got going on with it

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  5. KILLAHCANE says:

    @ CJTheMaestro

    I just checked out Sampla.. It looks pretty dope.. its cheaper than the BTV, can do more, more flexible etc. Not saying the BTV won’t be up to that level (or even better) one day.. but right now.. they aren’t there.. and without at least VST support and midi mapping.. it really can’t even be a functioning part of my growing studio…

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    saintjoe Reply:

    sampla is okay, I have some issues with it as well, but if you just want a sampling plugin, then it’s a good choice, not really the same type of product as btv tho.

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  6. Phonetic says:

    um so they put up the info for this update and they took off the info for the contest does anybody no if the contest is still on? because i read in the guidelines that they have the right to cancel it at anytime… and if they just did that for promo… thats MAD grimey.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    last I heard, they extended it to August, which to me…is kinda grimey in and of itself

    I never entered the contest and I stopped doing any type of promo etc for it, I just wasn’t feelin it man…just didn’t sit right wit me.

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    Phonetic Reply:

    yeah im afraid that its not real lol i kinda need that 10,000 but who doesnt :) well i guess that means that the hardware version is coming out in august (or never lol)

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    saintjoe Reply:

    if it doesn’t happen I will put it on blast, I already think it was shady to move it back, who cares if some just got the software? They missed out…it’s not fair for the folks that got in early based on the contest.

    If it turns out the contest doesn’t happen, I will make sure to blast that news loud and clear.

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    Phonetic Reply:

    lol same but thanks

    i quite frankly wouldnt of bought it with out the contest and the promise of free updates but this update really let me down because it didnt do ANYTHING

    they better give us another update be4 this contest is over because im not really feeling the software

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    saintjoe Reply:

    I feel you yo, real talk lol. And I know a lot of others that bought it for that reason alone.

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  7. mehdo says:

    Hey if they really don’t have the resources they should condsider making the hardware a controller instead and sell it cheaper than maschine sell both together and you can cut the monitor off and still do everything from the hardware even save your sequences to memory card or hard drive.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    Yeah, that’s a good point, I think they’ll do that anyway (make a dedicated controller for those that don’t want to hardware) but the hardware is what started this whole thing. I wouldn’t have been interested if it was just software, that came after they already started working on the hardware.

    The hardware, if it drops, will be very innovative, being fully portable with a rechargeable battery, the software doesn’t do anything different than other software and actually not as much as most, the sounds are what people like.

    I think we’ll see it come through tho. I hope!

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  8. GedaBlaq says:

    Yo what’s good my man? After all of the love you’ve shown me (I know it’s a mass mailing lol) thru product reviews, tutorials and in depth how-to’s, this is my first time posting a comment. I gotta chime in on my man KILLAHCANE’s assessment of Sampla. I actually own Sampla, Playa, BPM, Maschine, BTV & Logic9. I use them ALL to one extent or another to make music (when I have the time, yo Joe, I’m feelin you bout them seeds man). However, the one thing that BTV does that Sampla can’t, is sequence an arrangement. Sure you can host it within your DAW of choice but what if all you want to do is to lay a quick beat/ idea without loading up your DAW, creating tracks and assisgning I/O’s? With BTV, you don’t have to do all of that to lay your beat/ idea down. This, IMHO, is where BTV truly shines; just open it, choosya kits, instruments, tempo and bang out. Do I want to use BTV within Logic9? HELL YEAH! But I don’t HAVE to. I love the standalone sequencing functionality. BTV is HELLA better than BPM and BPM timestretches! BTV also has WAAAYYY better sounds than BPM and is cheaper. I am VERY disappointed with the update that the BeatKangs just released for the BTV but if nothing else, please consider this to their credit: The BeatKangs are not a huge corporation with 10′s of millions of dollars to throw into research & development, with the release of the BTV they have provided us with the dopest and most plentiful soundset since the SP1200 and EMU Mo’ Phatt. Last but not least, these are BLACK MEN operating within the confines of a corporate bureaucratic structure not designed for them. They WILL get it together. Let’s all try to be just a little more patient and forgiving. After all, it takes a lot of creativity, education and BALLS to do what these producers/ beatmakers/ DJ’s/ lyricists are doing. Think about it, Maschine had all KINDS of problems until 1.5 was released and folks held out. What has NI ever given back to HipHop? More MPC’s have been sold to aspiring HipHop producers (mostly black) than to another production genre on the planet. What has AKAI given back? Let’s support these guys. At least they’re trying. My .02 Peace!

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    saintjoe Reply:

    Thanks for the response man, I feel you, personally I’m not a fan of Sampla either.

    As far as BKE man, I don’t care what color they are, being black is not an excuse to somehow come out with an inferior product. They have more financial backing than you think lol. Maschine was still killing before 1.5, I used it thoroughly, it wasn’t unusable, and not a pain to use.

    Yeah if I just want to load up and quickly make a beat I could use btv, but why? When I have Maschine I can load up quickly as well? Bangin on the keyboard keys doesn’t appeal to me lol.

    Now i won’t front, I love the sounds, especially the drums in btv, nice. But everything else just feels like it is working against my workflow when I really want to get down.

    I’m not sure what you meant by NI or AKAI giving back, but they are a business just like BKE. No one is “giving back” to anyone, it’s all commerce. Folks are being very patient, but you must realize a lot of folks have been watching/waiting for a very long time, not as long as the owners themselves but still.

    I started following them in january of 2009 when they first announced the hardware, that’s what got me excited. So far it’s still not released despite many “it’s coming” messages, I really hope they do it because the concept is dope.

    As for the software, it should have been a vst from the beginning, in 2009/2010, that’s a must, period, no excuse for that lol. It’s coming up on a year since I first installed btv, and the same things are still there that I can’t do. Can’t autochop or do any type of slicing, not even manual (no I don’t mean just adjusting start and end points of samples), can’t drag the faders/sliders with my mouse (why? we should be able to grab and drag any fader or slider, just like the volume level, period), can’t map my midi controller to the controls of the software, can’t open it as a vst…..these are things that should have been there from the initial release, these are basics, not new features, basics.

    They did get the song arrangement right, I like that, export is cool but you should be able to export multiple files, with the choice to export each sound being used into it’s own wav file, without doing the solo, export tango.

    So I feel ya man, it’s got some good qualities, but much left to be desired, and I won’t take it easy on them just because they are “black” or “hip hop focused”. I treat them with the same expectations as anyone releasing a product to the industry, there are certain standards that are just defaults, these need to be met.

    VST
    Multi channel export
    midi mapping
    slicing/auto chop

    they should have had a beta test session before they first released it, these types of things would have been caught and suggested.

    I have a lot to say on this because I want to see it reach it’s potential, but you can only say “it’s coming” for so long yo.

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    teck Reply:

    yo i fell both of you guys but. my man said somthing that was so on point they sounds are sick the best drums sait joe.i think these beat kings are beter off making sound kits cause these other companies dont get it.sait jo.lol i think drums and sound wise btv got the machine??????and big opp to bkv.because they listen.far as song mode thats the shit export that the shit they just got to get the midi dumping on point fuck akai because theY charge us for ever little thing and did not give us much for years far as upgradeS i dont whant to talk about how shady akai is one thing them fuck opp screen they got over on us for years.nobody dont whant to say shit about that.i think deep inside of people they whant something to replace that hi price akai shit.they still whant top dollers for they basic ass shit it was us black people who mad they shit sp 12 akai all that stuff them machine was not made for us akai had no fucking cue what could be done with them.so sait joe thats were your machine comes in at they beat akai at ther own shit i dont care what those wac ass producing niggas say that machine is better then t all mpc and i been working on the mpc for years.it just goes back on how people cant move on iney beat that these cats can do on the mpc i can do 2 min on machine and bkvyou cant tell me shit whin i see pruducers using the stoc sounds like they come.they think it the pads but its not.so what im saying its not the machines it us if we did not have all this shit the love we have would help us overcome.and make some dop shit but i use BKV AND MACHINE TOGETHER THAT 121 UPGRADE MADE THAT WORK.AM NOT MAD BECAUSE IM DOING SOME DOPE SHIT I WILL ALLWAYS FUCK WITHE BEAT KINGS On THOSE DOPE SOUNDS

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    Ph0netic Reply:

    i dont even think the sounds are THAT nice this “Beat Machine” cant even sample well its so hard 2 chop and shit it really doesnt work well for east coast producers and severely slows down the work flow i mean as a FL user i like using a different pattern for every instrument and BTV really makes it difficult to work idk i guess its just not for everybody

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    saintjoe Reply:

    @teck, The drum sounds are good, not the best, I have a huge drum library. But I definitely like the drums in it out the box compared to stuff like flstudio, ableton, etc…those don’t really come with good drum sounds.

    But to be “game changing” like they say, they really need to step it up…the chopping is slow you have to turn the knob with your mouse! You can’t even just grab the slice points with the mouse you have to put your mouse on a knob and turn it?

    Honestly, I think once they finally make it work as a vst many people will be able to use it in their setup more, it’s not powerful enough to be used alone unless you just want to use the stock sounds, because adding your own samples and stuff is a lil extra lol…especially if you want to chop samples. Once it’s a plugin, it’ll be coo…then I can just use it for it’s sounds.

    It’s cool, it’s not a horrible app, but they need to make some changes and quick, you can’t go forever promising new stuff or fixes and keep saying “it’s coming” especially stuff that should have been there from jump.

    I still got love for em, and want to see them succeed, but I won’t turn a blind eye to the shortcomings, I’ll point out what I don’t like just like I do with any other company.

    And yeah, for the record, I LOVE NI Maschine better than my mpc 4000, which I sold at the beginning of this month lol.

    @Ph0netic I feel ya man, and agree. I think out the box compared to most other software the drums are more ready for urban producers and such, reminds me of the mophatt, but anyone who’s been at this probably has a decent library so that’s not the main selling point.

    imagine using it as a module in flstudio, so you can create patterns like you normally do? That’s where the ticket is, make it a plugin so people can add it to their setup, it doesn’t do enough to move folks away from what they already have.

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    Phonetic Reply:

    yeah and for the people who want to use it alone they should put mastering capabilities i mean if u put freak it adds an effect 2 every track wtf…. who adds the same effect 2 every track SMH… the exports sound 2 amateurish they really need 2 change alot.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    yeah man, I don’t like the “global fx” and have griped about it from day one, no one wants ONLY global fx, especially in software, it shouldn’t have those limitations, we should be able to use different types of fx on each track at least, if not each sound!

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    ph0netic Reply:

    i no i bet these guys arnt producers and if they are they are noobs really its pathetic and retarded 2 have global Fx

    mehdo Reply:

    you sold your MPC 4000 man so maschine is really that dope I gotta get it then. hey Steinberg is about to release Halion sonic and Halion 4. My thing is if you are going to release a sampler make it sample and not just be a glorified sample player Kontakt 4, Halion 3, Sample tank. Finally the NNXT and all the other sample players in Reason actually Records samples but guess what no auto chopping you do get auto keymappinp of single samples to keys though. They still do not want to incoporate Recycle into Record and Reason Recycl alone is getting outdated and The new Rex player does not Record samples I’m definitely getting the Emulator X 3 and NI Maschine

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    saintjoe Reply:

    Maschine is dope, but I was already using ableton live which caused me to put my mpc to the side, Maschine just brought a certain set of features I felt were lacking, mainly the workflow and hands on use with how it is integrated.

    But Maschine is dope for sure, I love it.

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    Teacee Reply:

    I agree saintjoe, my Roland Mv8000 is collecting dust, and I also use Ableton Live and Maschine, but rather chop using Ableton because of the variety of chopping choices, and you can get up to 128 slices at one time mapped out with one click, and editing is more versatile in Ableton. Then you can export the samples and use in any other project such as Maschine.

  9. GedaBlaq says:

    My Man.
    Gotta respect your viewpoint lol. It’s definitely refreshing to have a semi-disagreeable exchange of opinions with someone of your intelligence and hands-on trial and error experience level in this “field of choice” of ours.
    First, let me clear the air on my “BLACK MEN” comment. I am NOT giving the BK’s a pass cause they’re black. Please forgive me if this is the impression I gave. Hell, after re-reading my post, it even looks to ME that this is what I was saying, it is not. What I mean to say is, there are no other HipHop producers, black or otherwise, who actually USE the gear WE use, the WAY we use it, that are out there tryin to design a piece of gear that is original, easy to use, filled to the brim with nice sounds, and tries to overcome a lot of the MANY complaints we have with other, similar (WAAAYYYY more expensive) pieces of gear. The BK’s bullseyed a lot of their targets as far as ease of use, nice sounds, sample import, etc… but they without a doubt, EPICally failed on others such as AU/ VST integration (should’ve been default, no doubt), timestretching, midi mapping, multi-channel export, auto chop, slicing, you get the pic. Loot-wise, I’m sure they’ve got more cheese than they’re willing to admit, but I’ll bet NI/ AKAI’s pockets are a lot deeper.
    By “giving back”, I mean feedback. I belong to the NI producer forum and have posted up 1-2 questions that were answered by NI, but far more that never were. I have had a lot of questions personally answered by BoomBap and other BKE members when I was stuck on stupid with BTV. Some answers DID NOT solve my issues, but most of them did and at least they tried. In direct contrast, in Nov. ’07 I paid $500 for East/West Symphonic Choirs which was CLEARLY labeled Mac compatible on the packaging, only to find out after a week of failure trying to get the “word builder” package to work, that East/West had “conveniently” left out a tidbit of info that the product was not compatible with intel chipped Macs. When I called them, I was told that they would not refund my money, but that they would give me the new “Play Engine” (intel compatible) version of the software when it came out (in 7 mos) for another $200. So you’re correct in that this is a commerce driven market, but let’s not forget that customer service is a very integral part of that market.
    As far as the usability of Maschine, I love Maschine. I sold ny MV-8000, which I LOVED, in favor of Maschine. But let’s be real, Maschine had some SERIOUS workflow issues when it was first introduced, a few of which, are the same ones we have with BTV (AU/VST integration in Logic still has not completely been resolved, but close). It has taken NI WELL OVER a year to address some of the end user issues with their product as well. You, yourself even made a few how-to vids (which helped me more than you will ever know) explaining the workflow chain.
    Bottom line, BKE needs to step their game up and give their early adopters/ supporters the product that not only we deserve, but that they promised to us.
    Flip side, BTV is a good first effort for a bunch of first timers.
    They WILL get it together. Imagine the P.R. nightmare if they don’t.
    I definitely don’t want to give you or anyone reading this thread the impression that I’m initiating a pissing match with you. I hold your opinions and expertise in the HIGHEST of regards. Your product review opinions are weighed heavily in my decision making process to purchase new sounds & gear (lol) and I will continue to faithfully seek out your advice, now maybe even more so, now that I know you’re not just another “head noddin’, agreein with everything that’s said to get free gear and sounds and get your site hits up, type of cat. I, as a rule, keep my forum comments slim to none, but you’re a different type of cat (respect). I know you’re too busy to personally talk to everyone who’d like to talk to you, but if you’d ever like to chop it up, bout gear, sounds, beats, kids, wifeys, life, hit me up Fam. You got the email in ya list. MAD repect and a safe holiday to you and yours Fam. Hope to hear from you. Don’t choke tryin to gobble all that BBQ!
    Gene

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    saintjoe Reply:

    No doubt fam, I’m def not a “yessman” I’ve told many companies their products suck lol, I keep it real it’s the only way I know how.

    As far as support, yeah it’s def cool, but honestly I deal with a lot of smaller companies, and they all pretty much have the same support. Remember it’s easier to support all the questions/users when you don’t have millions. Companies like NI have been around for years, so it’s going to be virtually impossible for them to sit and respond to every post, I don’t expect them too. On the other hand, Eric at Spectrasonics regularly interacts with his customers.

    But yeah, it’s cool to have access, but a lot of the time “less talk and more show” is appropriate. At the end of the day, musicians will choose the best tools for the job, not the best support team. Because if the tools work, you don’t need the support team much :)

    I don’t want to take away from what they are trying to do, I applaud it, but if you’re going to put yourself out there like they are, then they have to come HARD and come right, not halfway or soft. Once they stepped into this industry, they became subject to the same standards as everyone else, they’ve overcome the hard part by actually starting the company and getting the financial backing, now they have to deliver the product. Because at the end of the day, if the product isn’t delivered, and delivered properly, then everything else won’t matter, they won’t get a pat on the back for failing, they will get a bunch of “I told you so” comments.

    I would like to see them finish what they started, and I will always give my input on how I think they can get to that goal. Only time will tell what will happen…so we shall see :)

    Enjoy ya weekend yo! I’m bout to get my grub on!

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    GedaBlaq Reply:

    No doubt indeed! I’m witcha 10K% there fam. Looks like we’re both waitin. We shall see. I just finished grubbin’ so… I guess it’s time to go bang out! ONE!

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  10. ph0netic says:

    plus this free update crap is BS they didnt give us anything my BTV keeps freezing and Boom Bap is selling kits… so i bet they are gonna make us pay for all the new sounds this is BS and the things is we have 2 use the software cuz the sounds are only compatible with the BTV

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    saintjoe Reply:

    yeah update was really “under the hood” code stuff from what I can tell, not anything near what any of us expected.

    As far as boom selling kits, bro gotta do what he gotta do, don’t you find it odd they won’t sell his sounds on the beat kangz site? He’s rolling solo on that man, that’s not a BKE thing it’s a Boom Bap thing…that’s all I’ll say on that lol.

    Vst/plugin capabilities would let many more people use it without having to run btv by itself.

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    Ph0netic Reply:

    lol yeah i was just buggin i was kinda pissed at the BTV i think ima invest in Mashine it looks really good

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    saintjoe Reply:

    you won’t turn back, trust me lol. Maschine is DOPE.

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  11. selfinflict3 says:

    Quote::Within a matter of weeks, we will begin to release subsequent updates that implement AU and VST support for Logic, Live and then Cubase…… whats that kangz?? looks like more worthless talk.. for a year and a half we have listened to ur promises, i am not being a hater, just speaking the truth,.. that last update was a joke, and you know it..

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    saintjoe Reply:

    I feel you bro lol…we’ll see what happens, but I’ve learned to just keep it moving and if they drop an update cool…if not, that’s on them.

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  12. Reggmail says:

    Saintjoe and brotha GedaBlaq says.
    Yo I respect what both of you brotha’s laid down.
    First of all I can tell that you both are very intelligent and hard working research and studying type of brothas, which is not the norm when it comes to lots of us Producers.
    I also think that very valet points that was made on both side’s and should help put fire under the Beatthing organization to produce.
    (Got To Give The People What They Want) type of attitude is needed with this product.
    I believe that most of us work better under pressure, it helps push and lift you up….Lol it’s needed.
    Most of the time, we do these company’s like we do politicians ( Vote them in and forget about holding them accountable) that’s not, and shouldn’t be the case here.
    We voted when we bought and paid for the product, now responsibility as well as accountability is in order.
    The sounds of Beatthing are nice, if I’m not mistaken, I believe that some or one of the brothers who is a staff designer of Beatthing, help to create sounds for Mo Phat, so they should know what they’re doing.
    But like in all things, It Ant’ Over, Until It’s Over, and we didn’t gain the Presidency over night, but it was off the backs of many trials, errors and sacrifices, that came before us.
    Each company NI Machine as well as BPM and others still have their set of problems, Just Google Problems with __________ ?
    So, on that note, I will continue to support the Beatthing Company.
    However, at the same time we need to keep up the pressure for them to not only match but surpass other software Co.
    Not just because their black but because it’s the wright thing to do…”Both reasons are correct.”
    I also commend both of you brothers, not just for the interesting dialogue, but also for the mutual respect that was shown to one another, in which I give much honor and respect to you both.
    Peace & blessings.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    I hear ya man, the sounds are cool, they aren’t the DOPEST but they are good, especially the drums and riffs, I could get on the instruments but I’ll save that for another day.

    The problem is, this can’t really be used by power users, you can’t map midi? You can’t load it as a vst? At least bpm, maschine, sampla, guru, they can all be loaded as vsts, have midi mapping, etc.

    Peeps have been following and watching these cats since winter namm 2009, beat thang was pose to drop that spring, then it kept getting pushed back, now software keeps getting pushed back with no updates, hardware still not out…it just gets old after a while.

    I would like to see them do something, but like many, I’m really losing any shred of hope I once had.

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  13. Reggmail says:

    OK, Sorry for the double posting.
    Where the %#@$ is the ( Edit and Delete ) Post Button?
    Lets get it going now (Please add it on per post options)
    Thanks.

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    saintjoe Reply:

    fixed it lol.

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  14. mehdo says:

    well the thing with the BTV is it reminds me of the Asr x and Command Station from Ensoniq and Emu I have not bought it yet but I’ve been watching it did they add 16 track seqeuncing to it yet thats one thing I’m waiting on besides auto chop and vst and just plain stability

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    saintjoe Reply:

    yeah I hear you on that, it definitely looks like the asrx/command stations, I loved those command stations.

    honestly man, I just want to see the hardware come through, there’s plenty of software and I’m all for seeing it updated, but I started following them because of the hardware, in winter 2009, that’s what I want to see!

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  15. Rico says:

    U know what sux! Im pissed the fact that they advertised this as a virtual MPC!!! If that was the case, how come there isn’t any timestretching??? Thats the main reason y i purchased this, i wasted 150 on this ans doesnt even have time stretching!! I hope theres gonna be an update that will fix this problem? Plus i cant sample any sounds from my computer!! Y is that?? I made some ill ass beats, but with this im afraid its gonna slow me down!

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    saintjoe Reply:

    no timestretching, they say it’s coming so we’ll see.

    To sample from your computer your soundcard has to support it, if your soundcard doesn’t support “record what you hear”, “stereo mix” or “wave out” or something like this, it won’t work.

    BTV only picks up what your pc/hardware can, it doesn’t have any built in audio drivers of it’s own.

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  16. Westchef says:

    How long cam each sample we record be with this software? How many secs etc.

    Can I load my own waves..drumkits etc. into this?

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  17. saintjoe says:

    There really isn’t a limit on sample time that they have mentioned. you can import your own sound into kits and instruments.

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